Historically, it has the honor of being the first American small-bore cartridge designed around smokeless powder, and it’s simply a .38-55 Winchester case necked down to hold .308-inch-diameter bullets. It certainly wouldn't be my first choice in weapons to use on em'. I would not trade it for any other rifle for ranges under 200 meters. Would i recomend a .30-30 no, not if you have another rifle available to you but then again plenty of people use bows and they certainly don't have nearly the energy at any point that a .30-30 has at 100 yards A 30-30 has more energy than many muzzleloaders! As long as you do not try and shoot one at 250 yards with your that gun, it's fine. Well written, nice style. This represents a 150-grain round-nosed .308” bullet (B.C. Even when I try to do long range hunting around the country, the animals seem to be attracted to me and come in close anyway. 30/30 is a great classic round (and for a good reason) it will get the job done and I second the "lever revolution" ammo if thats the rout your gonna take. Despite the dismal ballistics, he still likes the combination. If you have the means to get an elk only gun look at a 338 win mag, 35 whelen, or even the remington ultra mags. I also have modern handguns and what do I still rely on now that I’m a retired law enforcement officer, my S&W model 10 in 38spcl. The ole 30-30 is very, very capable! . These rifles are fairly light wieght, very accurate in good condition and quick handling. Negative. Thank you again. I don't have any research but, like most of the others I would bet that alot more elk have fallen to a 30-30 than a 25-06. 30-30 for elk . I have used that for several years now, and unless forced, I will continue its’ use for the 30-30. Of course a 30-30 has killed lots of elk. “When you live by hunting, you get close before you shoot!” -Old Alaskan Trapper. South Africa. If you do your own trajectory comparison with truly comparable sight in at 100 yards and line of sight, there isnt much difference at all at 200 yards, some at 300, but not as much as Hornady claims in their tables. Not a big deal if your an experienced hunter thats aim is true more often than not. When I travel I can, break the gun down to a very small package and not bring attention to myself in those states and cities where everyone seems to be a shit head about guns. That old Mossberg would group right at an inch at 100 yards, (when Dad zeroed it for me. It’s an oldy but goody for close range work. I prefer hunting tight cover, real close. Mountain10mm Feb 15, 2017. In 30-30 they have a muzzle velocity of 2400 fps. Location: Puyallup, WA / Grand Rapids, MI . I had a fancy Mark V Weatherby and my grandfather had a 30-30 that he traded a half a bottle of whiskey for. My father used a 30-30 to bag many elk (lots of years ago now) and I too used it bag my first elk (lots of years ago too, but as many as my father!). Which gives you, the patron, more of the information and entertainment you enjoy. Great info guys. However, the resounding answer is, Hell, yeah! I’m real glad to see all the icons of the gun world giving the 30-30 kudos. Almost a foot! read comparisons between it and the 30-30 in this previous RSO blog, Shooting’s Family Affair. I spend some time on the range and I'm confident in myself and my gun to make a shot on an elk out to 400 yrds all day long. its true that shot placement is key but my opinion is that even if my shot isnt perfect (and accidents happen) i want to know that my game is still going down. That or a .38-55 lever action with a 22" barrel or model 7 in 350 rem magnum. 30-30 of half its energy by 150 yards! The young guys look at me like I’m some kinda dinosaur. At 200 yds. I had a Winchester Model 94, and my father had a Marlin Model 1893. When doing load developement we dug a bunch out of the sand at the shooting range at 100 yds. And as for Still H. talking about how many have been wounded, I ask you how many elk have been wounded by archery hunters? If your a Bow hunter then you know how to stalk range should even be a factor. That’s all you get from a hyper velocity cartridge inside of 200 or 300 yards. And that’s not all. I'm curious what you all think of him using a 30-30. Instead everyone brags about how this old dog of a cartridge has taken more deer than any other. The thing that astounded me about this round over the Hornady offerings is, when you hit the animal, you know it right then. None could tell me if the rifle had ever been fired and the all were sure it had never been refurbished. The trick is to park the bullet behind the front leg on a line that misses any major muscles on the opposite side, too. (And on a bet, my little brother ‘won’ the job of field dressing every one of them.) So why all this veneration for the silly 30-30 Winchester? And just to let you guys know I am not a fan of either ! My first hunting rifle was a 30-30 Winchester. Be sure to check the barrel length on the test data, and if your barrel is longer, it’s most important to start at the bottom of the scale and work upward. Im of the opinion that you cant kill something "too much" I have a Kimber Montana in .338 federal, and it is a great round, I pair it up with a 180 grain solid copper Barnes bullet. Enjoy your hunting, shooting, and eating, Gerard! I came inside to unwrap a Mossberg .30-30. Then the real truth came out and I thought, Wow what a great article. By the time the bullet reaches the quarry it has lost a lot of shock force, which is intended to kill the animal. I shoot a 30-06 and have killed a  pile of elk with it and (knock on wood) haven't lost one. - Ron Spomer Outdoors. What’s all this nonsense about the 30-30’s smack down on deer? more than you need? The puny little 100-grain .243 bullet will be packing 1,514 f-p energy at 200 yards. I would say .30-30s work. Update 2: 10 points to best answer. The heaviest load you can get over the counter for the .22/250 is a 55 gr. You have a little wider bullet and 30-grain heavier, but at 200 to 300 fps less MV. I knew where you would inevitably going with this one. Keep things consistent, and I bet you’ll fall in love with the 125-year-old cartridge all over again. Typically you don't get very close when hunting elk. That was my first year hunting with that rifle I killed 2 deer, and I was floored how what I shot fell dead. I'll be out of town again for next year's elk season, so I have no immediate plans. If it has (and who can prove it one way or another?)

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