m1a vs m14

The solution for the United States military would be the M14, but the developmental road to reach that rifle would span several years.

That is a bit of a surprise. Live The Armory Life. While the M1 Garand was a revolutionary rifle for its time, it was becoming clear by the end of World War II and through the conflict in Korea that the design was showing its age. It is available with a new walnut stock or a black composite stock.

Discussion Starter • #1 • Nov 30, 2010. Descended from the M14 rifle, the M1A™ is a civilian-legal semi-auto version of that revered U.S. Military rifle that dominates the competition fields — and the heart of America. All rights reserved.

That’s all I need. Tom is the author of more than 30 books on military history and weapons systems. K. KurtC 155 Replies. Springfield Armory® recommends you seek qualified and competent training from a 55.3K members. But that's ok those are lookers . The real deal over a copy for me. I love them both. I own and shoot a nm m1a consitantly under half moa.

That's what they do, and they charge accordingly.

I have an AR; good to 200-300. By the end of the 1950s, the FAL (or one of its variants) would be used by NATO members Canada, Belgium, West Germany, the United Kingdom, Greece, Luxembourg, and the Netherlands. In other words, so fine, so gorgeous, but financially speaking, hopelessly out of reach. Its connection to the capable M1 Garand, basically being a product-refined version of the classic rifle — adapted to fire a more compact yet practically equal cartridge to the .30-06, feed from a detachable box magazine, be select-fire and overall be lighter and smaller — no doubt helped put the M14 over the top in the competition. In 1954, the British began to test the FN rifle. This is a testament to the enduring strength of the M14 design.

At times, the ride was bumpy, and there were casualties along the way. views and opinions of Springfield Armory. Come join the discussion about optics, hunting, gunsmithing, styles, reviews, accessories, classifieds, and more! articles are considered to be suggestions and not recommendations from Springfield Armory. certified instructor prior to handling any firearm and be sure to read your owner’s manual. The USMC tests were also extensive, and although closely matched, the Marines expressed a preference for the American-designed T44E4 rifle. . I like them both but if the SHTF I would take my M1A over my Mini 14, that's a no brainier. I shoot it often but it give me all the warm fuzzies of a calculator. Russ Chastain 05.27.20. The size disparity really shows when you compare a Mini to the common, full size, M14/M1A battle rifle. While the M14’s 7.62mm round is great for this, the gun is not. The socom and socom 2 are fun but not shooters atleast the few I have been around one even shot 5 inch groups at 100 I hope some one reports with better results.
I would love to get my hands on a M1a. I had both in my safe for a while and parted with the M1A after I got realistic about my wants/needs.

U.S. A forum community dedicated to Sharpshooters and Sniper enthusiasts. I'm own both a Mini-14 and a Springfield M1A Scout. Both were chambered for the new 7.62mm NATO round, basically a shortened and refined version of the .30-06 round. Come join the discussion about optics, modifications, gunsmithing, styles, reviews, accessories, classifieds, and more! Using live rabbits.

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His regular misadventures with Wally, his young Tibetan Mastiff, remind him that life must be enjoyed full-bore, at least until you are ready for a nap. Grenade Is. I happily admit that when I saw this video from Paul Harrell, I wondered as I clicked whether he’d pronounce “Garand” reasonably, or instead say it like Ian of Forgotten Weapons. While the M14 in one form or another soldiers on with American troops around the world, it has a civilian-legal counterpart here in the United States in the Springfield Armory M1A.
Tom Laemlein is a historian. I decided to photograph, measure and weigh them side by side. The M1A gives civilian shooters a chance to own their own version of the respected M14 rifle.

M1 Garand vs. M1A: Which is Better? From 1959 to 1970, the M14 served with distinction as the standard issue rifle of the United States military after the revered M1 Garand. The views A forum community dedicated to Ruger firearm owners and enthusiasts. If utter reliability and massive punch make it a winner. Produced in Geneseo, Illinois, this semi-automatic rifle gives shooters a chance to own the civilian sibling of a classic rifle. It's cool to see them side by side. Thanks for the compliment. The mini is a fun gun, the others are pure business. Second Media Corp., 111 Peter Street, Suite 901, Toronto, Ontario, M5V 2H1, Canada. I finally had to forget the Stingray, and bought a Ford Mustang GT instead [in other words, a Ruger Gunsite Scout Rifle]. U.S. If I had the cash Id buy the Fulton.. O yeah accuracy was better in the fulton too... hope that helps.. 2.1M posts. Nice Scout you have there - if I ever get another that would be the one! He regularly contributes articles to national magazines and websites on military history and firearms topics, and historical photos from his collection are used by publishers around the world. Most of the M1A rifles manufactured since 1971 were made for the commercial market, and thus were only capable of semi-automatic fire. The latest content straight to your inbox plus an automatic entry to each of our monthly gun giveaways! I enjoy the Mini immensely. His deep dives into historical research keep him (mostly) out of trouble and, yet, too often away from the rifle range. I love my Mini, but to me, the M1A was always the Corvette Stingray of rifles. It has always been a difficult proposition to get the U.S. military to accept a weapon not originally designed in America. Ordnance announced that the T44E4/E5 would be adopted as the M14 and M15 rifles. I had both in my safe for a while and parted with the M1A after I got realistic about my wants/needs. The size disparity really shows when you compare a Mini to the common, full size, M14/M1A battle rifle. The M-14 is a current combat rifle for all services. The fulton beat the Springfield easily. Asthetically they are clones of each other but the easy to jump to conclusion is the M1A must be a lot bigger. When I was standing at the rifle range in Parris Island looking at the 600 yard line of targets I asked if we had to hit anything that far with our M16's and the rifle coach laughed and said you don't have an M14. The U.S. Army deemed both rifles suitable for Army use but would not commit to one design over the other. Tom is married to a very patient woman, and they live on America’s North Coast, near Lake Ontario. I was surprised by the results. With a fixed magazine design, semi-automatic operation, and large size, the Garand was quickly becoming viewed as a classic of the past rather than a modern-day military rifle. Ordnance rejected Harvey Earle’s unique T25 automatic rifle (.30-06) and the British bullpup EM-2 (.280 British). For a better experience, please enable JavaScript in your browser before proceeding. Springfield Armory, Inc. and Smith Enterprise Inc. were the two companies that produced select fire M14 type rifles for civilian ownership. Also, that year the U.S. placed an order for 3,000 standard versions of the FAL, along with 200 heavy-barrel variants for testing with American troops. These While the M14 in one form or another soldiers on with American troops around the world, it has a civilian-legal counterpart here in the United States in the Springfield Armory M1A. Both of them are great rifles ,the first rifle I ever fired was my fathers .M1 I've loved the action ever since, Now I have a pair of Mini's one ranch and one tactical , They have a nestolgic personality so I say to each his own. I might just have to get an M1 they sure do look good dressed in wood . The Springfield, even the Supermatch, is probably not the equal of small-shop builders like National Match Armory and Fulton. 17 Posts . And once the actual video presentation began about 1.5 minutes in, he made me laugh by not pronouncing it at all! Now your just showin off ! I've always known that the Mini was a direct descendant of the Garand/M-14/ family, but I didn't realize how close they were size-wise. ( in a combat style test) for civilians maybe Springfield wont be a bad choice on a budget minded person as myself. You probably mean the Springfield Armory M1A rifle, and I’ll assume that’s the case in this discussion. The latest content straight to your inbox plus an automatic entry to each of our monthly giveaways. I also own a garand, M1A, and mini. The FAL was a capable rifle, and its Americanized T48 variant performed well enough. It was all about the politics of national origin.

It takes a LOT of money, time, blood, sweat, and tears to make an M14 or M1A consistently shoot as well as a $1,200 AR-15. Join Community Top Contributors this Month View All nf1e 194 Replies. I was shooting them both today and I was stuck by how similar they felt. I own and shoot a nm m1a consitantly under half moa.

© 2020 Springfield Armory. Sorry, an error occurred and we could not sign you up. A lot of Fulton guns end up on the HP ranges around the country competing against the Lego Rifle. While that might sound mind-numbingly awful to some, he enjoys it. The springfeild nm barrel fouls easy. And while the M14 would enjoy a relatively short period as America’s primary battle rifle, it still remains in U.S. service: Elements of the U.S. Special Operations Command use the Mk14 Enhanced Battle Rifle (the EBR) as a designated marksman rifle, and in Afghanistan the U.S. Army assigns two M14 EBR-RI rifles per infantry platoon. After initial teething problems with the T48 were addressed, further tests were conducted at Fort Benning and at the U.S. Marine Corps base at Quantico, Virginia. …

Stateside Service. In those times that he is cornered in a corporate environment, he will talk about marketing until he is released. That said, it will likely still shoot better than the 99th percentile of owners. M1A/M14 select fire rifles.

This is a testament to the enduring strength of the M14 design. Scratching the military semi-auto itch now with an M-1 Carbine and I have to say that it is a very fun and accurate rifle. Shooters, I am looking into buying an M1a and trying to decide between the two main brands that I know of, Fulton and springfied. Strenuous competitive testing between the T44 and T48 were conducted from the arctic to Aberdeen Proving Ground to Fort Benning, Georgia. TheShooter 179 Replies. M1A is a non-select fire M14, which didn’t see the light of day until the mid 50’s. One of the greatest challenges of this competition had nothing to do with rifle designs.

The Army’s tests at Fort Benning were extensive, but ultimately inconclusive. The SOCOM 16 is not a tack driver, but is accurate enough for me to hit head shots at 200 yards. Live The Armory Life.

Camp Perry shooters have long since abandoned the M14 because of the difficulty in accurizing the rifle compared to the M16 – and they aren’t alone. Remember, When You Pull The Pin, Mr. Come join the discussion about optics, ammunition, gunsmithing, styles, reviews, accessories, Modern, Devine, SOCOM, EBR, classifieds, and more! JavaScript is disabled. Second Media Corp., 111 Peter Street, Suite 901, Toronto, Ontario, M5V 2H1, Canada. Just walk out through a field with your open sights and a few 20rd mags. . Interest in the Belgian rifle was growing.

You might want to look at Arrington Accuracy as well, Phil is a shooter and an EXTREMELY talented gunsmith. Building a rem 700 rebarreling and rechambering a base model 30-06 to something 6.5-06, 6.5-300win. Not so fast. By 1954, the competitive field had narrowed to just two rifles: the American T44E4 (the precursor to the M14) and the Belgian-designed FAL rifle (in the United States, it was tested as the T48). Ultimately, although it took about a year of deliberation, U.S. I would love to have either rifle. During 1953, Canada became the first NATO partner to adopt the FAL. I think that was Bill Rugers vision, to make the gun as close to the M1A as possible. No Facebook...No Twitter...No cell phone...NO REGRETS!

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